Paul Tudor Jones - Bearish Stocks & Bullish Gold and Bitcoin
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Posted 11/10/2023
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Legendary hedge fund manager Paul Tudor Jones expressed his concerns about the current challenges facing investors in a recent CNBC interview, noting that investing in U.S equities has become particularly difficult due to the obvious escalating geopolitical tensions and the dire fiscal situation in the United States.
“It’s a really challenging time to want to be an equity investor and in U.S. stocks right now,” Jones said in an interview on CNBC.”
Jones also highlighted the complex financial landscape, stating that the United States is grappling with a significant fiscal deficit, which is the most severe since World War II. The debt-to-GDP ratio stands at 122%, and it's projected to reach 195% by 2053, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). This growing debt burden, he warned, could potentially lead to a scenario where the U.S. might face defaults or hyperinflation.
Jones went on to further emphasise how further increasing of US rates could lead to a potential "Minsky moment" in the bond market.
"As interest costs go up in the United States, you get in this vicious circle, where higher interest rates cause higher funding costs, cause higher debt issuance, which cause further bond liquidation, which cause higher rates, which put us in an untenable fiscal position."
Turning to the volatile geopolitical landscape, Jones pointed out that there are currently three major flashpoints in the world: the conflict in Ukraine, tensions in Israel, and the possibility of discord between China and Taiwan. He particularly emphasised the risk of direct conflict between Iran and Israel, as it could potentially draw other nations into a global conflict, akin to the First World War.
“From a personal standpoint, would I be investing in risk assets now and stocks until I saw what the resolution was with Israel, Iran?” Jones said. “Israel is going to respond in some way, shape or form. The determination of whether Iran was actually responsible is enormous because again, it has the possibility of really escalating into something terrible.”
In terms of the U.S. economy, Jones predicted a recession beginning in the first quarter of 2024, citing the nation's dire fiscal position. He emphasised the need for the U.S. to find $1 trillion in savings by 2025, through measures such as tax increases and spending cuts. However, he noted that he believes neither of these actions is likely to occur. Consequently, Jones anticipated that the bond market's supply and demand dynamics would lead to further rate hikes, potentially pushing the country into recession.
“The bond market, simply through supply and demand, is going to deliver more rate hikes, because we don’t have a clearing price yet for long-term debt,” Jones said. “So those rate hikes are probably going to tip us into recession.”
Finally, and arguably most important, Paul Tudor Jones ended the interview with how he plans to protect himself from the looming recession and geopolitical turmoil in the current economic environment whereby US Treasuries cannot offer the same protection they used to.
"It's Hard to Like Stocks, I Like Bitcoin and Gold"